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 the existence of ranks, XP and levels introduces a "meta-goal" that exists
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 [@Visitor](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/17967/), I agree but that to me makes
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 ###  [ LOONEY TUNES (Looney Toons): Rookie Revue (1941) (Remastered) (HD
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 Random gags around military life, set on an army base. A bugler uses a jukebox
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 [@Visitor](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/17967/), the RPG like elements
 
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 which I think creates an anti-social "coerced co-operation" atmosphere
 
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 I like it
 
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 i like these old cartoons
 
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 [@Visitor](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/17967/), that makes sens3
 
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 but
 
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 [@Okkervils](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/5261/), that would be awesome
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 [@nyess](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/3746/), is it the uncut version
 
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 i had a few more local peeps in here this morning helping me a bit with
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 [@Okkervils](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/5261/), see a doctor
 
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 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), it's not me lol
 
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 but in a game like CS:GO adding this kind of "meta-goal" stuff makes people
 mad at their teammates when they think they're not pulling their weight,
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 [@Big Bad Brat](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23529/), ok
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 [@The Last Stand](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/26874/), i dunno
 
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 [@Dial M for Misgender](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/25918/), any game where
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 and to a lesser extent co-op games
 
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 when you have a "meta-goal" that encourages players to play in an optimal
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 I didn't sleep a lot, could have used some more
 
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 people get addicted to harvesting xp/rewards, etc in order to progress in a
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 These people genuinely need telling and reminding that their silly fb games
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 2 minutes ago
 
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 clearly those games are a massive fuckin' problem and anyone who plays them
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 [@Spl00gies](https://kiwifarms.pl/members/23299/), i abhor fb mobile games.
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